My wife, Monica, primary rider, rode him as a Ladies 3 and I rode him a few times as a Men 4. Suitable for level 1-4. We are not shooting any more and hate to see his talent go to waste in pasture. Hauled to CMSA matches all over. No vices, sound, stout, easy keeper, good feet and has never bucked. Loads and trailers great. Cow bred with Doc Bar on top and Mr. San Peppy on bottom. Has done a little roping as a head horse. Will do a sliding stop when tuned up. Had been out to pasture for a year and Colt jumped on him and loped circles with just a rein around his neck.